Heather's Bucks County Real Estate Blog: But...But...But... or "How Sellers and Buyers Really Come to Terms"

But...But...But... or "How Sellers and Buyers Really Come to Terms"

I put an offer in on a property in a downward trending market today.  I included my comps showing that the price that we offered is fair.  It's not a "Seriously?  That's the Offer?" offer. It does have a basis in reality.  The reality is that prices are eroding in the area, and there are a ton (a TON) of short sales and bank owned properties lingering on the market.  Prices are going to continue to erode until we get rid of this inventory.  The Seller was only willing to come down a bit off the asking price.  My Buyer wasn't willing to go up more than a smidge because our guts are telling us we can pick something up in the next couple months at his target price. 

The other agent was great.  He told me what the Seller's current bottom line was without arguing the comps with a "We have vinyl siding - this comp has asbestos! yadda, yadda, yadda..."  I told him my Buyer wasn't going to move up in price without the "That house is a piece of crap!  Look at the foreclosures on the market...they're going to regret it...yadda, yadda, yadda..."  

And so, the deal has died.  Not in a clash of ego and tears.  Not in a desperate back and forth of negotiating increments of $1,000.  It simply died because the Seller was willing to take X, and my Buyer was willing to pay Y, and those two lines didn't intersect at any point.

So, how is a deal made?  A deal is made when a Seller is willing to take what a Buyer is willing to pay.  Sometimes, this puts everyone in a "Happy Place." Sometimes the deal dies only to be resurrected another day.  But, at the end of the day, it comes down to this: 

A deal is made when a Seller is willing to accept what a Buyer is willing to pay.

That's it.  It's really pretty simple.

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And then of course up here there's always the snow blower. No deal is ever finished until who gets it is resolved.

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Posted by Gary Bolen (CRS) Lake Tahoe Real Estate Information (McCall Realty) over 2 years ago

The sellers had their day.  It is time that the buyers have theirs.  You summed it up perfectly!  The difference is that during the sellers day the to buyers were willing pay more.  It IS that simple.

Posted by Richard Parr,Realtor,Real Estate Agent, Elmhurst and DuPage County Real Estate (Prospect Equities, Oakbrook Terrace, IL) over 2 years ago
Heather, you are absolutely right on the money here. It makes me crazy when an agent presents an offer with all the posturing...as if pointing out how much the buyers don't like the house will win points with the seller. It's a simple numbers game now more than ever.
Posted by Kelly Sibilsky (Licensed Through Referral Connection, LTD.) over 2 years ago

Gary - All the better reason not infuse the negotiations with ego and drama.  You never know when/if/how the deal may live to see another day.

Richard - The shift in dynamics is interesting.  And, I think, healthy for the market as a whole.  It's certainly changed the tone of a lot of negotiations, hasn't it?

Kelly- "Posturing" - the PERFECT way to put it.  It's completely unnecessary and counterproductive.  All it does is fan the flames of the negotiations.

Thanks for stopping by everyone!

Posted by Heather Oberhau, Bucks County Real Estate, e-PRO (Prudential Fox & Roach) over 2 years ago
You summed that up in a nutshell. "..when a seller is willing to accept what a buyer is willing to pay". When sellers were getting offers for MORE than there asking price, this wasn't a problem. It's the buyers turn to get the best deal. Until there is less of an inventory on the market, home prices will decline. Everyone wants the better "deal".
Posted by Michael Delp (Mortgage Pro) over 2 years ago
Michael  - Another thing at work here is motivation.  Meeting in the middle might have been an option, but right now, my Buyer didn't like the house enough to move up, and the Seller's didn't want to get rid of it enough to come down.  Eventually, maybe one or the other will change their mind.  No harm, no foul. 
Posted by Heather Oberhau, Bucks County Real Estate, e-PRO (Prudential Fox & Roach) over 2 years ago
Heather well said.......  we buyers and sellers reach the happy place do you do the happy dance?  Some might think the price is high or low but if the partys agree that it is FAIR MARKET VALUE.  Then it is, but what I like about your post is that you and their Realtor where able to act like PROFESSIONALS and you moved on
Posted by Joe Adams (Major Mortgage USA/Branch Manager) over 2 years ago
Heather - It is that simple. Many sellers are still stuck on prices they will never see.
Posted by Tom Plant (WINEormous.com) over 2 years ago

Heather - I'm with Joe on this.  I also think that you handled the negotiations with the other Realtor in a professional manner and over time if the seller truly wants to sell they'll come down in price to what the market will bare.  And your clients will find something else that fits their price.

 

Posted by Jessica Bigger RealtorĀ® California Coast Real Estate (RE/MAX Humboldt Realty) over 2 years ago
Oh I don't know, Heather.  Give me a roll of duct tape, a wiffle ball bat and half an hour with the other party in a dank basement and a deal normally gets hammered out.  For the record, Elaine Hansen is to blame for loosing me on your blog ;) 
Posted by Paul Slaybaugh, Scottsdale AZ Real Estate (Realty Executives) over 2 years ago

Paul - LOL.  I decided not to practice my deadly art of nagging on the other party.  I like to save it for life or death situations.  Your duct tape will surely be an option for the future :)

Jessica and Tom - It actually went under agreement, so perhaps the Seller's got their price.  And, Good for Them!  My Buyer just didn't like it enough to pay that. Again, no harm no foul.

Thanks for stopping by everyome!

 

Posted by Heather Oberhau, Bucks County Real Estate, e-PRO (Prudential Fox & Roach) over 2 years ago

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